Driver fined for overnight stay in 'free' Radcliffe Metrolink car park

Prestwich and Whitefield Guide: FINED: Ian Callaghan with his mother Margaret Atkinson FINED: Ian Callaghan with his mother Margaret Atkinson

A MOTORIST has been slapped with a £100 fine for parking overnight on the Radcliffe Metrolink car park – despite the facility’s website describing it as “free”.

Ian Callaghan, aged 57, of Canalside, Radcliffe, parked in the Metrolink car park on the evening of December 5 when he went for dinner in Bury with wife Diane and 80-year-old mum Margaret Atkinson.

Afterwards they decided to have a drink at the New Swan pub in Radcliffe and so Mr Callaghan left his car overnight – checking the Transport for Greater Manchester (TfGM) website which said the car park was free and gave no more details.

Due to the darkness, Mr Callaghan did not spot signs stating the facility is only free during the hours the tram is running.

On returning to his car the following day he found a £100 penalty notice – reduced to £60 if paid within two weeks – had been issued at 5.45am.

Mr Callaghan said: “I believed it to be free parking because that is what it says on the website – on the official Transport for Greater Manchester page it does not say anything about this only being during the hours the Metrolink runs.

“It is ridiculous – I was not deliberately trying to park somewhere I was not allowed to park and I will let them take me to the small claims court to fight this.

“I just want to warn other people so no one else gets caught out.”

A TfGM spokesman said: “Parking regulations exist at a number of park and ride sites, including Radcliffe, to ensure that the car parks are used as safely and as efficiently as possible.

“Signs are clearly displayed on all these sites to advise users on the regulations and it is the user’s responsibility to ensure that they are abided by.”

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1:44pm Fri 20 Dec 13

shakencity says...

Don't bother with the small claims court....you're only gonna lose.

Whether it's dark or not, If the signs are there, then you've no excuse....unfortunat
ely, this is what they'll throw at you.
Your assumptions won't win you the case, but good luck in trying.
Don't bother with the small claims court....you're only gonna lose. Whether it's dark or not, If the signs are there, then you've no excuse....unfortunat ely, this is what they'll throw at you. Your assumptions won't win you the case, but good luck in trying. shakencity
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8:59pm Fri 20 Dec 13

xBuryGirlx says...

The fine is against the driver of the car so if anyone else in these cases gets a ticket on a private car park ignore it unless they have proof of who was driving. They'll threaten you with court but it'll never happen, they need proof of who was driving!
The fine is against the driver of the car so if anyone else in these cases gets a ticket on a private car park ignore it unless they have proof of who was driving. They'll threaten you with court but it'll never happen, they need proof of who was driving! xBuryGirlx
  • Score: 8

6:49pm Sat 21 Dec 13

WorkingShift says...

Just a thought How would you get on, if you get a Tram at night to work a night shift then catch a tram back in the morning using the Car park over night for your car ?
Just a thought How would you get on, if you get a Tram at night to work a night shift then catch a tram back in the morning using the Car park over night for your car ? WorkingShift
  • Score: 15

7:45am Mon 23 Dec 13

shakencity says...

Working Shift,
You'd get a ticket......Have you read the article?

It has nothing to do with "when somebody works". You can only park on the carpark when the trams are running.

xBuryGirlx,
No they wouldn't. If you've not reported your car stolen, then you are responsible for it and would thus be obliged to pay the fine.
If they do take you to court and win (which they will), you will have to pay not only your costs, but theirs aswell. It'll end up costing you more in the long-run.
Working Shift, You'd get a ticket......Have you read the article? It has nothing to do with "when somebody works". You can only park on the carpark when the trams are running. xBuryGirlx, No they wouldn't. If you've not reported your car stolen, then you are responsible for it and would thus be obliged to pay the fine. If they do take you to court and win (which they will), you will have to pay not only your costs, but theirs aswell. It'll end up costing you more in the long-run. shakencity
  • Score: 0

9:29am Mon 23 Dec 13

buckfeed17 says...

What's he moaning about, i'm a met season ticket holder and i wouldn't park there as the met isn't running at night. You've been fined and deservedly so
What's he moaning about, i'm a met season ticket holder and i wouldn't park there as the met isn't running at night. You've been fined and deservedly so buckfeed17
  • Score: -7

11:40am Mon 23 Dec 13

nitramb says...

is this a new thing or are they just enforcing it now? I got an overnight ticket at Whitefield Friday into Saturday when I had been on my work Christmas do and was over the limit to remove my car. I collected it on Saturday before the car park was full so hadn't caused any disruption to anyone. Seems a mean thing to be doing in the run up to Christmas
is this a new thing or are they just enforcing it now? I got an overnight ticket at Whitefield Friday into Saturday when I had been on my work Christmas do and was over the limit to remove my car. I collected it on Saturday before the car park was full so hadn't caused any disruption to anyone. Seems a mean thing to be doing in the run up to Christmas nitramb
  • Score: 3

1:28pm Mon 23 Dec 13

Buryboy1986 says...

These car parks are run by TFGM, NOT the Local Authority.

Money Saving Expert says;

If you get an unfair ticket in a private car park, don't automatically pay it. These supposed 'fines' are a Wild West measure. Whether the cowboys do it at supermarkets, retail parks, hospitals or housing estates, they're often unenforceable.
These car parks are run by TFGM, NOT the Local Authority. Money Saving Expert says; If you get an unfair ticket in a private car park, don't automatically pay it. These supposed 'fines' are a Wild West measure. Whether the cowboys do it at supermarkets, retail parks, hospitals or housing estates, they're often unenforceable. Buryboy1986
  • Score: 9

7:09am Tue 24 Dec 13

xBuryGirlx says...

shakencity wrote:
Working Shift,
You'd get a ticket......Have you read the article?

It has nothing to do with "when somebody works". You can only park on the carpark when the trams are running.

xBuryGirlx,
No they wouldn't. If you've not reported your car stolen, then you are responsible for it and would thus be obliged to pay the fine.
If they do take you to court and win (which they will), you will have to pay not only your costs, but theirs aswell. It'll end up costing you more in the long-run.
Not true at all and that may apply to council run car parks but nor private ones. It is against the driver of the vehicle at the time and they have to prove who was driving. No chance they'll take you to court as they have to issue proceedings against the driver, which they can't prove! I'm talking from experience, one of my favourite hobbies is parking on private car parks then laughing at the threatening letters that come threatening court. 2 weeks later they offer to half the fine to stop them taking it to court. Then you don't hear a thing.
[quote][p][bold]shakencity[/bold] wrote: Working Shift, You'd get a ticket......Have you read the article? It has nothing to do with "when somebody works". You can only park on the carpark when the trams are running. xBuryGirlx, No they wouldn't. If you've not reported your car stolen, then you are responsible for it and would thus be obliged to pay the fine. If they do take you to court and win (which they will), you will have to pay not only your costs, but theirs aswell. It'll end up costing you more in the long-run.[/p][/quote]Not true at all and that may apply to council run car parks but nor private ones. It is against the driver of the vehicle at the time and they have to prove who was driving. No chance they'll take you to court as they have to issue proceedings against the driver, which they can't prove! I'm talking from experience, one of my favourite hobbies is parking on private car parks then laughing at the threatening letters that come threatening court. 2 weeks later they offer to half the fine to stop them taking it to court. Then you don't hear a thing. xBuryGirlx
  • Score: 4

8:12am Tue 24 Dec 13

shakencity says...

That's one of your favourite hobbies....you really need to get out more.

"They have to prove who was driving".........umm
, i not so sure on that.

However, on this occasion i'll bow to your superior knowledge of illegal parking burygirl.
That's one of your favourite hobbies....you really need to get out more. "They have to prove who was driving".........umm , i not so sure on that. However, on this occasion i'll bow to your superior knowledge of illegal parking burygirl. shakencity
  • Score: -1

8:29pm Wed 25 Dec 13

Babbar Divino says...

shakencity wrote:
That's one of your favourite hobbies....you really need to get out more.

"They have to prove who was driving".........umm

, i not so sure on that.

However, on this occasion i'll bow to your superior knowledge of illegal parking burygirl.
How times have changed. In my day hobbies were things like stamp collecting and even the adventurous ones collected beer mats. Regardless if burygirl is right I think this article clearly states who was driving so he might as well pay up now.
[quote][p][bold]shakencity[/bold] wrote: That's one of your favourite hobbies....you really need to get out more. "They have to prove who was driving".........umm , i not so sure on that. However, on this occasion i'll bow to your superior knowledge of illegal parking burygirl.[/p][/quote]How times have changed. In my day hobbies were things like stamp collecting and even the adventurous ones collected beer mats. Regardless if burygirl is right I think this article clearly states who was driving so he might as well pay up now. Babbar Divino
  • Score: -1

12:07am Thu 26 Dec 13

ask12b1 says...

No parking ticket is enforceable if it is not issued by the local council. Just ignore it, you may get a few letters but nothing will come of it. This is from experience :-D
No parking ticket is enforceable if it is not issued by the local council. Just ignore it, you may get a few letters but nothing will come of it. This is from experience :-D ask12b1
  • Score: 2

2:57am Thu 26 Dec 13

xBuryGirlx says...

shakencity wrote:
That's one of your favourite hobbies....you really need to get out more.

"They have to prove who was driving".........umm

, i not so sure on that.

However, on this occasion i'll bow to your superior knowledge of illegal parking burygirl.
Its called a joke pal, should try it sometime.
[quote][p][bold]shakencity[/bold] wrote: That's one of your favourite hobbies....you really need to get out more. "They have to prove who was driving".........umm , i not so sure on that. However, on this occasion i'll bow to your superior knowledge of illegal parking burygirl.[/p][/quote]Its called a joke pal, should try it sometime. xBuryGirlx
  • Score: 1

3:00am Thu 26 Dec 13

xBuryGirlx says...

Babbar Divino wrote:
shakencity wrote:
That's one of your favourite hobbies....you really need to get out more.

"They have to prove who was driving".........umm


, i not so sure on that.

However, on this occasion i'll bow to your superior knowledge of illegal parking burygirl.
How times have changed. In my day hobbies were things like stamp collecting and even the adventurous ones collected beer mats. Regardless if burygirl is right I think this article clearly states who was driving so he might as well pay up now.
It does but as my post says, it's to help people in the future.
[quote][p][bold]Babbar Divino[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shakencity[/bold] wrote: That's one of your favourite hobbies....you really need to get out more. "They have to prove who was driving".........umm , i not so sure on that. However, on this occasion i'll bow to your superior knowledge of illegal parking burygirl.[/p][/quote]How times have changed. In my day hobbies were things like stamp collecting and even the adventurous ones collected beer mats. Regardless if burygirl is right I think this article clearly states who was driving so he might as well pay up now.[/p][/quote]It does but as my post says, it's to help people in the future. xBuryGirlx
  • Score: 1

8:16am Sat 28 Dec 13

Brock's says...

Had same problem in Radcliffe two weeks ago. I've sent off my response to the parking company due to the inappropriate level of compensation they wanted for the land owner (£60 fine). I didn't cause the landowner any costs so have said if they can prove a suitable level of compensation I would consider paying.

Have received confirmation of the letter. Just have to wait and see what they do next.

Recent changes in legislation protect drivers from massive claims
Iike this from private land owners.

The ticket wasn't issued by the police/ council/ traffic warden so it isn't enforcable, it is simply an invoice for payment. Do not pay is my advice.
Had same problem in Radcliffe two weeks ago. I've sent off my response to the parking company due to the inappropriate level of compensation they wanted for the land owner (£60 fine). I didn't cause the landowner any costs so have said if they can prove a suitable level of compensation I would consider paying. Have received confirmation of the letter. Just have to wait and see what they do next. Recent changes in legislation protect drivers from massive claims Iike this from private land owners. The ticket wasn't issued by the police/ council/ traffic warden so it isn't enforcable, it is simply an invoice for payment. Do not pay is my advice. Brock's
  • Score: 2

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